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AWRBIAC 159th Meeting Minutes

159th AWRBIAC Meeting Minutes

October 21-22, 2009
Canon City, Colo.

Call to Order and Welcome

The Chairman, Treasurer and Secretary of the AWRBIAC group were not present so Mr. Greg Stanley, Forecaster from the ABRFC, called the 159th Meeting of the Arkansas-White-Red Basins Inter-Agency Committee (AWRBIAC) to order on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 at the Holiday Inn Express located in Canon City, CO. Mr. Stanley proceeded to act as chair for the meeting.

Those present were:

  • Mr. Greg Stanley, Commerce/NOAA/NWS/ABRFC
  • Mr. Bob Blazs, U.S. Geological Survey, Oklahoma Water Science Center
  • Mr. John Gage, U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, Oklahoma
  • Mr. John Turner, Arkansas Natural Resource Commission
  • Mr. Anderson Neal, U.S. Department of Agriculture, Natural Resources Conservation Service
  • Mr. Mike Slifer,  U.S. Geological Survey
  • Mr. Shane Banks, U.S. Geological Survey
  • Mr. Rod Ellis, Missouri DNR/WRC
  • Ms. Jennifer Stark, Commerce/NOAA/NWS/Pueblo WFO MIC
  • Mr. Larry Walrod,  Commerce/NOAA/NWS/Pueblo WFO Hydro Focal Point
  • Mr. Bill Lawrence, Commerce/NOAA/NWS/ABRFC
  • Ms. Treste Huse, Commerce/NOAA/NWS/Boulder WFO
  • Mr. Pat Edelmen,  U.S. Geological Survey, Colorado
  • Mr. Roy Vaughan,  U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, PUB CO
  • Mr. Greg Goodenow,  U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, Loveland CO

Each person present at the beginning of Day 1 introduced themselves.

Treasurer’s Report

Mr. Stanley motioned to accept the Treasurer’s report. Motion seconded and approved. Mr. Blazs suggested that since the Treasury had sufficient funds, and due to the fact that the hotel meeting room fees were relatively modest, no registration fee would be collected at this meeting.   This motion was seconded and approved.

Approval of Minutes of the 158th Meeting

Chairperson Stanley asked for the minutes to be approved or asked for any corrections.  No corrections or concerns and minutes subsequently motioned to accept, seconded, and approved.

Business/Technical Program

Mr. Lawrence asked for an explanation of the charter of AWRBIAC.  Mr. Blazs responded with an explanation to the best of his ability.

Mr. Stanley introduced the speaker for the afternoon session, Ms. Treste Huse, the Service Hydrologist at the Boulder National Weather Service Office.

Ms. Huse proceeded to give a very good presentation on the current status of El-Nino and its expected evolution during the winter months.  At this time, it appears the El-Nino should be weak to moderate, and the affects on the state of Colorado would result in a slightly wetter than normal winter.   Ms. Huse then proceeded to discuss water resources in the state of Colorado.  Population increases continue to tax the system with an ever increasing need for more water.  

Agencies Five-Minute Reports 
  • Bureau of Reclamation Report:  John Gage
  • USGS State reports: presented mostly by Mr. Blazs with help from Mr. Banks and Mr. Slifer
  • Commerce/NOAA/NWS/ABRFC Report:  presented by Greg Stanley

A motion was made for the meeting to adjourn the first day’s meeting and was seconded at 3:50 p.m.

Call to Order Thursday, October 22, 2009

The Arkansas-White-Red Basins Inter-Agency Committee Meeting reconvened at approximately 8 a.m. on Thursday, October 22, following breakfast.

Continuation of Agencies Five-Minute Reports
  • State of Arkansas:  Presented by Mr. John Turner
  • State of Missouri: Presented by Mr. Rod Ellis
  • U.S. Department of Agriculture, Natural Resources Conservation Service Report:  presented by Anderson Neal.
  • U.S Army Corps of Engineers, Southwestern Division; Little Rock Dist., Tulsa Dist., Albuquerque Dist;  Miss. Valley Division, Memphis District: presented by Mr. Blazs.

 At 9:45 a.m., a motion was made and seconded to finish up business this morning and be able to wrap up business at the end of  the day instead of meeting again Friday morning.  A discussion ensued about where to hold the next meeting.  According to Mr. Blazs,  New Mexico is next in line to hold the meeting.  A thoughtful discussion then followed, as Mr. Lawrence inquired as to the need to continue holding AWRBIAC meetings, especially considering the greatly reduced attendance at the current meeting.  It was discussed how current technologies (GOTO meetings, email) and Tri-agency meetings fill much of the needs for cooperation.  However Mr. Blazs noted that Congress has mandated AWRBIAC and that they simply cannot fold as a group without their permission.  After much discussion, it was decided that AWRBIAC should hold at least one more meeting. A motion was made to hold next year’s meeting at a much more central location, such as Lake Texoma area where it is hoped more would be able to attend. This motion was seconded and approved. It was also decided that the issue of decommissioning AWRBIAC would be discussed thoroughly at this next meeting.    

Mr. Stanley was nominated to be the new Chairperson.  He accepted a one year term as the Chair. Mr. Lawrence was nominated to be Secretary and he declined the nomination.  A motion was then made to keep the current Treasurer and Secretary for the coming year.  The motion was seconded and approved.

A suggestion was made to improve internal coordination within the group prior to the next meeting. It was also suggested that a “pre-meeting” checklist be developed to assist future Chairpersons.

Mr. Stanley requested that all electronic versions of presentations be emailed to him.

Technical Program

Mr. Blazs presented features of the website.

Mr. John Gage then introduced the speaker for the morning session:  

Mr. Roy Vaughan presented information about the Frying Pan/Arkansas River Diversion system that transports water from the western side of the Continental Divide east into upper sections of the Arkansas River Basin. 


Mr. Stanley adjourned the meeting for lunch at 11:30 a.m. and asked that we all meet in the lobby at 1:00 pm to load up and travel to tour the Pueblo Dam.

Tour – Pueblo Dam

Tour proceeded to the Pueblo Dam.  Mr. Vaughan gave the group a detailed internal tour of Pueblo Dam. The group walked from one side of the dam to the other; meanwhile, the various instruments used to gage the structural health of the dam were pointed out and their functions explained.  Mr. Vaughan also discussed various items of interest about the dam’s construction that occurred in the mid 1970s, as well as the operation of it day to day.   After the dam tour, much of the group proceeded to the Royal Gorge above Canon City.  The group spent approximately 90 minutes at the site before adjourning for the day and meeting.